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america." that's "viewpoint" for tonight. i'll coming to >> jennifer: i'm jennifer granholm. tonight the war room goes operational. ♪ >> shock and yawn gives way to ground and pound. after one of the most intense aerial bombardments in political history, the war for four more is placed in the hands of the foot soldier. the name of the game? sweat equity. both armies are on the march. the depth for passion, inspiring, and with dedication to purpose and belief in their cause, they call they mail they knock they rock! their mission, the four most important words in the political
world, get out the vote. ♪ >> jennifer: the democratic army is on the march. we are fighting for every last county, every last precinct, every last vote. we're going into battle here people suit up and get ready to roll out. president obama is leading the charge, and he will being deployed to four states today. at 0800 he flew from washington, d.c. to davenport iowa then off to denver colorado, and from there on to los angeles to type the tonight show with jay leno. he has still got to head to nevada for another -- for
another rally, and this one with a uso-like where indicate katery perry will perform. but the enemy, mitt romney is also on the march. reflies from nevada to iowa -- wait -- nevada iowa to ohio, and all of these states have early voting. look. in nevada where 11% of the population has already voted there are good signs for the democrats. 45% democrats, 35 republican. in iowa almost a quarter of the stated has already voted, 47% democrats, 31% republicans. in ohio counter insurgency effort by republicans. that state doesn't report party
affiliation so we have less intel there, but we know that 8% of turned in their ballots. and the president is ahead in the polls there. now let's take a look on the ground. in ohio the obama campaign has 131 field offices. meanwhile the romney army -- maybe i should say navy -- has just 40. in iowa, the president, 66 field offices, romney has ten. in nevada 26 for obama, ten for romney. i was reviewing the troops if florida and virginia, waves of bah -- battalions each day. face-to-face target contacts with target voters at their
homes/barracks. thousands are troops are sent out daily. their instructions get commit to vote early for the president, including a time and date that they will be voting.% then each night troops gather intel about who voted that day. that information is assembled into packets for the next day's field work. reinforcements are shipped in for states not in the cross hairs of the conflict. buses of georgians are being sent into battle in florida. buses of marylanders are sent into florida. my fellow americans this is the time for you to enlist to help your nation, know that the enemy is also coming on strong, and disseminating harmful information. >> romney: we haven't heard an agenda from the president, and that's why his campaign is
taking on water, and our campaign is full speed [ cheers ] >> jennifer: we must defeat this fo. so to our loyal troops first vote. do it as soon as you can, vote like your nation depends on it. because it does. once you have voted, traverse the terrain to the closest battleground territory you can find. if you are in california proceed ten clicks to nevada. you are in new york march over to pennsylvania. don't worry about requisitioning boots and fatigues and canteens the campaign will do it for you. there will be buses and sometimes snacks and songs, and no shortage of fellow soldiers in good cheer. and if you can't mobilize to a
battleground state double bunk it to a phone bank.undecideds. romney is doing it ryan is doing it the koch brothers are doing it, we must do it too. the enemy is on the march. we shall meet them on the battlefield. we must prevail. we shall prevail through honor, and determination and the unmatched power of our mighty mighty vote. now get out there and cast your ballots, and i'll leave you with this the wise wores of general john bahlushi in "animal house." >> we're just the guys to do it. >> let's do it.
>> let's do it! [ cheers ] >> go! go! go! >> jennifer: for more on that i'm joined by commander of intelligence, chris lahan yes, sir, reporting for duty. he is former press secretary for al gore's presidential campaign. chris, welcome back inside "the war room." >> thank you for having me. >> jennifer: so the president has three times as many field offices as mitt romney, and, you know, is that going to translate into votes? >> i think that one of the built-in advantages the president has in addition to an electoral college that favors him is they have spent four years putting in place the army of volunteers, which is enormously important, but the data mining. they know almost to the number the voters who are still undecided, and they are going to
go to them and talk to them. >> jennifer: interestingly, molly ball had an article today in "the atlantic," talking about the obama ground and she described the obama field offices were plastered with posters of obama and the team et cetera. but in the republican field offices, they were sort of coordinated campaign offices, they had the congressional member, et cetera. so it wasn't focused on the presidential. what is going on there? >> i think it goes back to the fact that obama's team has focussed a long time putting in place that type of infrastructure. the romney campaign had to go through the primary and they don't have the local resources. >> jennifer: do you think messaging is going to penetrate now? >> george w. bush won in 2004 by
about as many people who will be going to the game across the street from where we are right now, about 50,000 people. so there's no question field operation can make or break a difference. and that's part of the firewall in place. >> jennifer: people say it's sometimes worth two percentage points. do you agree with that? >> i do. you have to have both. the air and the ground. air gets you even ground can get you over the top. >> jennifer: for sure. interesting story today about the president having done a interview with the des moines register, and he said his first priority when he is reelected will be to have immigration reform passed. don't you think that's an effective ground game strategy. >> i do very much. and that's the interrelationship between the ground and the air.
we know in certain states nevada colorado, two of the four or five states that are really critical and florida, that the latino vote along with the women vote is the key cohort. and we have seen that. blow it sup a big story, and that's not the actual substance, but that clearly is hitting a very targeted micro group. >> jennifer: well the numbers are important, and in florida obviously this is an important issue, not just immigration but the ground game for the gop, and "the tampa bay times" tweeted today that yesterday the gop had said that they had 10 million voter contacts in florida, and said they taught 5.7 million contacts in florida. this is not just each day, this is over all. so you saw a big number
yesterday, and then they sort of contracted it. it seemed like yesterday they might have been exaggerating their numbers, and changing them day-to-day. the voter contact aspect of things is the most key part of the ground game. they seem to be using the romney ryan way of talking about the deficit to do their voter contact analysis. first of all you can't have that type of a difference between the two numbers. that would suggest that there may not be quite that type of a game in place. >> jennifer: right. >> i think they don't have a particularly effective ground game. but the way they are trying to make up for it is create an impression -- because there is a psychology, you create the psychology that you are head so sometimes that small group of undecideds says i want to go with the winner. so they are throwing data out
there to play into a narrative that may not be there. we saw this in 2000. the bush campaign was doing a victory tour going to states that we knew we were up almost by double digits to created that impression about where the campaign was. >> jennifer: so you think it's a head fake. >> i do think it is a head fake. i think folks are getting more sophisticated about this, and when you see data like this it leads you to that type of conclusion. >> jennifer: the romney campaign is doing two things, one is this conveyance of momentum. and the national gallup poll has seemed to confirm that -- >> the race is very tight. >> jennifer: very tighted. but they are conveying that they are really rolling. and the second thing they are doing very obviously is to push
him in the middle to try to make a claim for those undecided independent voters. >> the romney campaign woke up about three weeks ago, and realized they are trying to him be a plausible alternative. it is very late in the game to begin that with three weeks to go. it's a little bit of a jolt but they finally got to a place where they recognized that that's what they needed to do. >> jennifer: it's so funny they didn't etch-a-sketch it sooner. >> that's why you are getting romneysia. >> jennifer: let me ask you one quick question. there is a column that said that president clinton's strategy and advice was to make sure people understood how extreme mitt romney was. where the campaign had been going on this flip flop. which strategy is more
effective? >> that's a good question, president clinton's story he is doing a flip flop flip. my personal don't need to be handcuffed by either. >> jennifer: it's a trust question -- [overlapping speakers] >> jennifer: exactly. chris lahane thank you so much. sir. >> and one more thing, you and i agree on a lot, but there's one place we disagree. >> what is that? >> go giants. >> jennifer: stop that. they put propaganda on the set. i have to get it off. we are going to check in with bill burton. he'll tell us where he is deploying his troops. plus proving that not all men
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we had a good group of people out there. >> this was a booming place. and mitt romney and bain capital turned it into a junk yard. >> i had no health care, and i was nearly 60 years old. >> mainly i kept thinking how am i going to take care of my family. >> he'll give you the same thing he gave us nothing. >> jennifer: that is the newest ad from the democratic super pac priorities usa could not have come out as a better time. i have long believed in order for the president to win reelection, the electorate has to be constantly reminded how callus mitt romney can be and has been. it's very similar to a spot they aired earlier this year. those ads were actually inspired
produced for the late senator ted kennedy's 1994 campaign against mitt romney. kennedy trounced romney 58 to 41%. so for more on that story and much more, much more, i'm joined by strategist for the priorities usa super pac. he comes to us from palo alto, california. bill, welcome back inside "the war room." >> governor, thanks so much for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. quickly, you must think that senator kennedy's '94 campaign was really on to something because you have got another one coming out, right? >> that's exactly right. it's not rocket or political signs to find out what the most important thing to tell voters about mitt romney. here we are some 18 years later, and mitt romney still doesn't have an answer. so we're going to continue to run these ads, and we feel
confident it is making a real impact in this case. >> jennifer: yeah, it's real people experiencing real pain. are you worried that voters may be immune because they have seen these ads or something like it before? >> i worry every single day. but we test all of the things we put up on tv. we do polls, focus groups, and what we found that is interesting, is that one of the spots that we ran it's called stage, it's about this guy named mike earnest who was told to build a 30-foot stage, and at the end of the day he was fired. four people in the focus group brought it up as one of the things he remembered. >> jennifer: yeah, he was the guy that said he felt like he was building his own coffin.
>> that's right. these ads cut through because it's real middle class families who can talk about the record that mitt romney already has. >> jennifer: obviously right now we're moving into a phase of the campaign, which is really focused on the ground game. in the final days is priorities usa going to be spending money on getting out the vote efforts or will you concentrate on ads like those. >> our role is to concentrate on what karl rove and the koch brothers are doing. the republicans are outspending the democrats two to one. and so we're trying to do everything we can to make sure we are getting the president's
back. >> jennifer: karl rove and the koch brothers do have their own ground game. they have people on buses going to swing states but you are saying you are going to be focused on message rather than mobilization. >> that's right. message and communication directly with voters. the campaign has one of the biggest most impressive ground operations in the history of politics. so we would probably just get in their way. >> jennifer: here is a sound bite from paul ryan on the trail today, and he's talking about poverty. take a listen. >> the part of what makes america great is that when americans don't succeed, we look out for one another through our communities. my party has a vision for making our community stronger. >> jennifer: so paul ryan's budget, of course advocated decreasing medicaid spending by more than $1.5 billion, not to
mention what his proposed budget would cut out of food stamps and other safety net help for the poor. i'm wondering if something like that, the hypocrisy of him being so concerned about the countries most vulnerable that that might be something that you might exploit in an ad. >> what is fascinating to me that what paul ryan wants to do is exactly what mitt romney did in business, which is help out the wealthiest investors at the expense of these middle class families. and mitt romney is the guy who said he is not concerned about the very poor in this country on cnn not too long ago. so they don't have credibility on these issues and we're going to stay focused on making sure
people know the guy mitt romney is, and what kind of president he would be. >> jennifer: yeah, especially since the 47% are victims. >> they won't take responsibility for their own lives. >> jennifer: exactly. many democrats have been opposed to the idea of super pacs, but it you have gotten an awful lot of support lately what changed their minds? >> i would like to say it was my handsome good looks, but i think it was more likely panic -- [ laughter ] >> jennifer: well, i don't want to laugh at that, but -- >> but it's true. >> jennifer: yeah. >> and mitt romney could be sworn in next january and that's very frightening certainly for that 47% of americans, but for all of us. >> jennifer: that's why you and a lot of people here are working
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before you panic remember that mitt romney's at 31.9%, and one reason the president has slipped from a high of 87% earlier this month is his trouble with male voters. gallop found that in 2008 then candidate obama and senator mccain split the male point. and there was a 14-point lead president win the presidency. fast forward, and we can see the advantage. that is not good. so for more on what this all means for the obama war room ahead of the election is author and political analyst, david paul kuhn. david welcome back inside "the war room."
>> thanks for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. is the gender gap as bad as it looks. >> yeah, from a democratic point of view. democrats need to be a few points higher with women, and he should be maybe four or five points higher especially with white women at this point. and the only reason he is expected not to the election is because the electorate is much less white than it was in 1994. >> jennifer: how can they leverage richard mourdock's comments that -- those comments that abortion should be illegal with no exceptions for rape or incest. that's an opportunity, is it not? >> yes, and i think the obama campaign is doing this just
right. you want to take these comments and tie them to romney. they are doing that in ads. you want to hit independent women with those ads, because they generally are fiscally conservative. they don't vote on abortion per se, but they are certainly not going to like these comments. and this rowses the democratic base, particularly women, and they are targeting both groups right now. >> jennifer: here is a line that the president delivered in davenport, iowa today. take a listen. >> obama: it doesn't matter if you are black or white, or hispanic, ornatetive american, no matter what you look like no matter where you come from, no matter who you are, you can make it here if you try. that's the america we believe in! [ cheers and applause ] >> jennifer: he is obviously moving to all sorts of democratic groups as well as
women. what kind of turnout does he need from those constituencies to make up for the white male vote going to romney? >> the numbers are really interesting. basically they are stable and have been for almost the entire general election. and that means that there is a small portion of hispanic voters that are really key in deciding who wins the election in 13 days. romney is too low with hispanics. he certainly needs to be where mccain was. he is a few points below mccain at this point. but obama is about a point or two below where he needs to be with whites. and while there are far more whites than hispanics that vote hispanics are heavily represented in the swing mown states. >> jennifer: so where the president lacks in the white
male vote he can make up for in his increased turnout of hispanics, perhaps? >> he can't -- if those voters go to romney -- if all of the voters -- this 8 or so percent of heavily white males -- generally what happens is undecided voters generally split their votes end, and so what we're going to see is he is going to try to make up with it with hispanics. we could but i wouldn't feel secure if you are on the president's team at this point. >> jennifer: that's why we are talking about getting out the vote. that's david paul kuhn. thank you again so much for
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>> jennifer: he's back. and he's ready to make our day. american cross roads, the karl rove backed super pac supporting mitt romney, he's on the air -- not karl rove but the pac is on the air in swing states with a tv ad features actor bill clinton clint. and eastwood's a little more shall we say focused than he was at the republican national convention. >> someone doesn't get the job done, you have to hold them accountable. obama's second term would be a rebun of the first. we need someone who can turn it aroundfast. and that man is mitt romney. the future of our country is at steak. >> jennifer: what happened to it's halftime in america? that's airing in seven swing states that ad. florida, ohio, virginia colorado, nevada iowa. but to break down the state of
the gop we had to call in the always outspoken former arizona congressman, j.d. heyworth. j.d. welcome back inside "the war room." >> jennifer it's get to be with you. my granddad was a back upcatcher -- >> jennifer: i knew i could count on you, man. >> you and i are with the tigers, and we'll start on that note of you nan empty. >> jennifer: that's a good strong start. salon and nbc news have reported that there are incidents where empty chairs due to the clint eastwood stuff are now being hung from trees. do you find it that'swood is the inspiration for these so-called
chair lynchings. >> i'm not in favor of chair lynchings, but in terms of being a spokesman clint eastwood is pretty effective obviously. the numbers must have come in pretty well for him to be up in swing states, but i believe this has to do with the message, rather than people you can't control and these incidents that i can't confirm personally, but i don't believe any chairs should be strung up. >> jennifer: all right. let me ask you about a couple of other outliers. mitt romney has with extremist like donald trump, richard mourdock -- trump does still refer to himself as one of romney's top surrogates, and today donald trump comes out with his big october surprise which is that he's going to
donate $5 million to charity if president obama releases his college records. honestly, j.d. why hasn't the romney campaign distanced themselves from that nut. >> that's donald being donald. but it would be good for charity. president obama, look what he could do for charity. >> jennifer: all right. so donald trump of course is a surrogate, romney hasn't broken ties with him. and i suppose you can just ignore him, why rom romney, though, been more clear about breaking ties with richard mourdock. >> richard mourdock is the nominee for the united states senate in indiana.
the campaign were very clear that governor romney doesn't agree with the ideas put forth by richard mourdock. but when you were governor, i would assume that every member of the legislature did not agree with what you did. so there are varying degrees of disagreement, but the question becomes even though you may have a disagreement as you did in the broadcast with chris lahane you still welcomed his political intelligence. >> jennifer: i agree on some but there are some things that are damaging to a candidate who is trying to woo women. and romney has not come out in favor of todd akin.
so, you know, i'm -- and i don't know where do you are on this j.d. -- i don't know if you think there should be an exception or not. but republicans are in this weird position which is if they were successful in passing an abortion ban, how -- how -- what would you say? how would the party decide what the penalty is for getting an abortion. is it something that the women gets thrown in jail for? >> of course not. there's a whole lot of dis-information going on. no one wants to criminalize any woman in that difficult position point number 1. and point number 2, and this is histrionics and vice president biden was absolutely wrong. what would happen if there was an overturn by roe v. wade it would go back to the state, and
you know that. >> jennifer: but you have half of the states to the position of banning abortion, and even if they agree there should be an exception in the case of rape or incest, how does that get determined? does a woman go before a rape panel in order to qualify for the exception? these are legitimate questions if in fact that kind of extreme view gets passed. >> the much more legitimate question is this not only right to life, but right to make a living, with unemployment, and the under employment in double digits, with vast overspending. this election is going to be decided on the questions economically. >> jennifer: i don't know, j.d., it's real important for women. i can tell you that's very important.
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supporting richard mourdock for senate. as senator richard will be the 51st vote to repeal and replace government-run health care and help stop the reid pelosi agenda. there's so much at steak. i hope you in joining me to support richard mourdock for u.s. senate. >> jennifer: yes, mitt romney is supporting richard mourdock. he refuses to pull theed a despite richard mourdock's statement yesterday. >> i struggled with it mice for a long time, but i came to realize life is that gift from god, and even when life begins in that horrible situation of something that god intended to happen. >> jennifer: to tell us what would happen to abortion rights
if mitt romney is elected and republicans control congress is erin ramon. she is a staff write we are salon, and comes to us from new york. welcome back inside "the war room." >> thanks for having me governor. >> jennifer: there are more than 40 anti-choice candidates running for office, why does that not matter? >> i think so many of those 40 are putting their foots in their mouths. they are just a little too frank. they have been cloaking their anti-woman views saying they are trying to protect women and women's health basically trying to protect women from their own decisions, but now basically have a lot of neophytes, who they are basically saying in
public what the anti-choice people say amongst themselves. and those views are really out of step with the american public. >> jennifer: let's assume for a moment that all abortions become illegal, no exceptions for rape invest. what -- what would the penalty be for women who terminated their pregnancy? >> i think that's absolutely a question that we should be asking people who want to absolutely ban abortion. what they will tell you up front is they think the doctor should have penalties. but in mississippi i looked at some internal discussions they were having, and one of them said it is going to be hard to understand at first why the women has to be punished but once they come around to this thinking, that's why they will understand why the woman has to
go to jail. >> joy: if you treat a fetus the same way you suggest a human being outside of the womb doesn't that mean it should be subject to the harshest punishment? >> yes, and i think it's important to think about where are these ideas going? what is the natural if for example these personhood people also believe that con interest exception is abortion. >> jennifer: right. and if you assume abortions are only legal in the case of rape or incest or the life of the mother, how does that have to work? would they have to establish rape panels?work? if you carry it out, right?
it doesn't seem to -- >> we have some guidelines because right now we have the hyde amendment, which will only fund abortion for women on medicaid in the case of rape incest or if they their lives are danger. you can imagine the way that rape survivors are treated in this culture, they are already retraumatized in the criminal justice system so the idea of a rape board is pretty horrible. >> jennifer: we can assume that if mitt romney is elected he would i will up to his promise to appoint supreme court justices that would overturn roe
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